Pri katechizme sv. Pia X, treba si dať pozor, nakoľko originál je v latinčine a jeho preklad do angličtiny nenájdeš vždy najlepší.

Saint Pius X intended a Catechism, that all Catholic faithful could relate to and understand. Issued at the beginning of the twentieth century in Italian, Catechismo della dottrina Cristiana, Pubblicato per Ordine del Sommo Pontifice San Pio X

To my knowledge, the Catechism of St. Pius X has never been published in English in its original text. There is one Catechism of Christian Doctrine, published by the Rev. Msgr. Eugene Kevane in Virginia, USA in 1974, but in fact, it contains a much later text which lacks much of the original text: it is the translation of the Catechismo della Dottrina Cristiana, the standard Italian Catechism, as it was in 1953. That Italian Catechism is in turn, a summary and reduction of the original Catechism of St. Pius X. ... The only book where I was able to find the authentic text is the excellent Compendium of Catechetical Instruction by the Right Reverend Monsignor John Hagan, first published in Dublin in 1910, and containing for each chapter of the Catechism the relevant part from the Catechism of the Council of Trent, the questions and answers of the Catechism of Saint Pius X and Father Raineri's Catechetical Instructions, which were very popular in the nineteenth century.

We present here Msgr. Hagan's text with very slight modifications of style only. The current discipline of the Church on matters such as fasting has been included in smaller print to bring the text up-to-date without altering the original answers.

May this edition of Saint Pius X's Catechism help priests, teachers and parents to impart the knowledge and love of the Doctrine of the Catholic Church to their pupils and their children in all its entirety and beauty.

---- http://www.ewtn.com/library/CATECHSM/PIUSXCAT.htm#Introduction

... Though Bellarmine's Catechism was largely followed as a model all over the world, yet, owing to the modifications introduced in diocesan editions, it came to pass in the course of time that almost every diocese had its own Catechism, differing in many respects from the Catechisms of other dioceses.
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The idea, however, has never been lost sight of. During the sitting of the first Catechetical Congress in 1880, the then Bishop of Mantua (later St. Pius X) proposed that the Holy Father be petitioned to arrange for the compilation of a simple, plain, brief, and popular Catechism for uniform use all over the world. Shortly after his elevation to the Chair of Peter, Pius X at once set about realising, within certain limits, his own proposal of 1880, by prescribing a uniform Catechism — the Compendium of Christian Doctrine — for use in the dioceses of the ecclesiastical province of Rome, at the same time indicating that it was his earnest desire to have the same manual adopted all over Italy. The text selected was, with slight modifications, that which had been adopted for some years by the united hierarchy of Piedmont, Liguria, Lombardy, Emilia, and Tuscany.

It contains three Catechisms.

The first, which is intended for infant schools and for the home, and which covers about thirteen pages, sets forth briefly the more elementary truths of faith, chiefly by way of formulae to be committed to memory.

The second part, called the "Short Catechism," is intended chiefly for primary schools and for children preparing for the sacraments. It contains about sixty pages devoted to a brief exposition of the doctrine of the Creed, Sacraments, Commandments, and Prayer.

The "Larger Catechism," which forms the third part, explains these at greater length in about 200 pages. It is succeeded by an explanation of the principal feasts of the year, covering sixty pages, followed by forty pages of a Brief History of Religion, and concludes with a certain number of daily prayers, and prayers for special occasions.

La necessit#224; di provvedere per quanto #232; possibile alla religiosa istituzione della tenera giovent#249; Ci ha consigliato la stampa di un Catechismo, che esponga in modo chiaro i rudimenti della santa fede, e quelle divine verit#224;, alle quali deve informarsi la vita d'ogni cristiano. Pertanto fatti esaminare i molti libri di testo gi#224; in uso nelle Diocesi d' Italia, Ci parve opportuno di adottare con lievi ritocchi il testo da vari anni approvato dai Vescovi del Piemonte, della Liguria, della Lombardia, della Emilia e della Toscana. L'uso di questo testo sar#224; obbligatorio per l'insegnamento pubblico e privato nella Diocesi di Roma e in tutte le altre della Provincia Romana; e confidiamo che anche le altre Diocesi vorranno adottarlo per arrivare cosi a quel testo unico, almeno per tutta l'Italia, che #232; nell'universale desiderio.

Con questa dolce speranza impartiamo di tutto cuore a Lei, Signor Cardinale, l'Apostolica Benedizione.

Dal Vaticano, li 14 Giugno 1905.

PIUS PP. X

600. Qual’#232; la forma del sacramento dell’Eucaristia?

La forma del sacramento dell’ Eucaristia consiste nelle parole usate da Ges#249; Cristo: questo #232; il mio Corpo, questo #232; il mio Sangue.

Q. What is the form of the sacrament of the Eucharist?
A. The form of the sacrament of the Eucharist consists of the words used by Jesus Christ Himself: "This is My Body: This is My Blood."

it is the translation of the Catechismo della Dottrina Cristiana, the standard Italian Catechism, as it was in 1953. That Italian Catechism is in turn, a summary and reduction of the original Catechism of St. Pius X.

Qual #232; la forma dell'Eucaristia?
Forma dell'Eucaristia sono le parole di Ges#249; Cristo Questo é il Corpo mio; questo é il Calice del Sangue mio... sparso per voi e per molti a remissione dei peccati *.

*Orazioni, II, Canone.

To už je úmyselná provokácia, aby ste mohli zase kritizovať uzamknutie témy?

Pôvodne zaslal Azuritko - 16 jún 2011 : 21:00:38

Alebo nevieš kde sa píše dátum príspevku?

Pôvodne zaslal Azuritko - 16 jún 2011 : 21:00:38

Ja by som si po upozorneniach a zamykaniach tém vždy radšej otvoril novú tému. A keď si to tak vezmem. Nechce sa mi čítať celá tá stará téma, bo už aj tak nemám tucha o čo v nej šlo, a novou témou by sa to vysvetlilo všetko ak by bola dobre podaná.

Pôvodne zaslal Azuritko - 16 jún 2011 : 22:38:04